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1.

Give me a character from any fandom I know at least fairly well, and I will tell you:

A) My OTP
B) The runner up
C) The anti-ship
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why


2.

recs--->



[livejournal.com profile] ergoipsofacto wrote Like Calls To Like (Pelleas gen, a bit of Pelleas->Micaiah)
It is awesome, filled with awesome of the gen variety. I rarely rec FE stuff because like, I know most everyone and it's like incestous, but it is awesome. Now go shower her with love.

Your Girl, She's A Renegade and What A Girl Wants, (Oofuri, Momokan/Shinooka)

These remind me why I love this pairing to a desperate, obsessive degree. I think I did a little happydance inside when I realized my request had been filled. They're hot, and do a great job fleshing out the characters and their motives. Just gaaahh /flails happily.


half-asleep heart (Oofuri, Abe/Mihashi) is utterly gorgeous and I wish I could say more, but just oh, read it.


Open Beta Fandom/LJ, Fandom/Dreamwidth.

Have I ever mentioned that I love moe anthros? Even more if it's delicious. This is adorable, sexlicious~hot and delicious all in one.

Date: 2010-08-23 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikari-m.livejournal.com
for the meme question: Japan? :P

bet I already know your otp for him, heh~
(but I admit I'm curious about what else you'd say on him!) :)

Date: 2010-08-23 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
A) My OTP | Greece/Japan, fullstop.

B) The runner up IDK, Greece/Japan is such high tier it's less being secondary than being somewhere around like, tenth or twentieth. That being said, it seems like despite me a awoving not to, I have minor interest in UK/Japan, America/Japan and Japan/Taiwan. The last is [livejournal.com profile] angelic_ink's fault. Whatever, I like a ton of stuff in Hetalia. Almost every time I dislike something at first, I grow to like it.

C) The anti-ship | IDK, China/Japan? China seemed the most brotherly of all the older brother figures, and Japan has never showed him much of anything but hostility. It wasn't even tsundereness, but outright meanness. Yes, he gets sad over Japan, but Japan literally stabbed him in the back. He was his younger brother and he doted on him and Japan grew up to cruelly attack him. Of course he's going to cry over that. I'm not too fond of Korea/Japan either, for similar reasons, or perhaps that Korea spends more time groping China's breasts.

D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character

quiet =/= boring. Still waters run deep.


E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why | China. For some reason, Japan never returned the love China gave him. I've never been able to get in the head of young!Japan. Well, when he was little he was just a brat, but when he stabbed China in the back he looked...weird and yandere.

I know why Japan historically had issues with China, but not why the character did. His younger days just seem such a 180 from how his personality later developed. Did China bring out the worst in him or something?

Edited Date: 2010-08-23 09:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-23 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikari-m.livejournal.com
you like America/Japan and England/Japan? ♥ those two would be my runner up Japan OTPs!

...=P In fact, Japan/Taiwan would also be a runner up of mine after that too, heh. I've seen some really nice fanart with the two and they seem like they would have interesting dynamics too... then there's the actual "canon" pic with Taiwan demanding China to not bother Japan and yeah, it'd be interesting, I think!

Hmm.... I'll be honest, I like China/Japan now though I admit I also found it hard to see it possible, when I first got into the fandom. ^^'

but I liked how China seemed to care about tiny!Japan a lot even when Japan didn't really ask for it at all. I think (Hetalia's) China genuinely does like him because of that, anyway. Also, have you heard China's character song "Aiyaa, Four Thousand Years"? It's a very beautiful chara song and (imo) kinda obviously sounds like he's singing to Japan, based on those lyrics.
And then I think someone in the main comm mentioned it was brought up that it sounded like the background singing even sounded a bit like the words, "Wo Ai Ni" (Chinese for "I love you") and yeah I started shipping it a bit more I guess after hearing about that even if it was uncertain... XD;

Though it's still a bit hard to think of what Japan must think of China after the Black!Kiku strip, I admit. But, there were some parts that made me think maybe China will be able to forgive Japan and they'd get along again some day (well, in Hetalia canon anyway) - For one thing Japan said "forgive me" just before he attacked so it seemed like he at least felt some remorse about it? For another the fact that Russia of all charas consoled China by saying "but don't worry, you two will definitely get along well with each other again" helps me think maybe that's what Himaruya intends to happen sometime later in Hetalia so...! yeah. :D;

I know why Japan historically had issues with China, but not why the character did. His younger days just seem such a 180 from how his personality later developed. Did China bring out the worst in him or something? <- I suppose that is the question to think about when it comes to that pair, it is confusing, huh? though I sometimes wonder if it's because of the way China "found" Japan (who seemed kind of lost and aimlessly wandering, in a way) and simply took him in and tried to get Japan to follow his customs, in a way... maybe that's what did it. Japan seems to me, like maybe he just couldn't get used to such drastic changes and strict rules? Sooo that's what I think may have been Japan the character's issue, anyway.

Annnnd that's enough tl;dr from me (sorry bout that!...) It was interesting reading your answers though, thanks!
And I of course totally agree that quiet charas/pairings =/= boring, yup. ♥

OH and I just thought, I also some time ago saw this beautiful "MAD" fanvid about the Asian nations and thought I'd rec it too (song lyrics are here (http://www.animelyrics.com/jpop/nakajimamiyuki/eastasia.htm))?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVYNtCtYKY
^ I think it shows an interesting take on the relationship China and Japan may have had too :)
Edited Date: 2010-08-23 11:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-23 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distorted-r.livejournal.com
1. Fire Emblem 9-10 of course

Date: 2010-08-23 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
It's a character meme, not a fandom meme XD You gotta ask for a specific character~

Date: 2010-08-23 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distorted-r.livejournal.com
Oh, damn. my bad. I'll be boring as hell and say Soren.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com

A) My OTP | Ike/Soren. WHAT A SURPRISE~ I somehow feel this should be giant and sparkly given my feelings towards it, but I don't think Soren would approve.

B) The runner up Soren/knowledge, Soren/his books, Soren/crankiness.

C) The anti-ship | Soren/anyone-that-is-not-Ike.

D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character

Well, you asked for it!

I'm not just being a crazy fangirl when I OTP Ike/Soren and generally dislike all Soren/other, Ike/other pairings. This is characterization talking.

Soren isn't really multishippable by his own doing. He personally sabotages any relationship that could start by saying that he's loyal to Ike. He does this to Stefan, Micaiah, Skrimir AND Pelleas, each citing specifically that he won't leave Ike's side. Despite many people offering him kindness in the Greil's Mercenaries and so on, the closest he ever comes is being civil to them when he's grown up a bit and is more comfortable with himself. He's had years and years to open up to other people, and Ike is the only person he takes that chance with.

He isn't the sort who secretly snuggles kittens and can be ~moved~ by the special actions of Ilyana/MarySue/other female. If so then he might've thawed a bit towards Oscar or Mist or Rhys, who have surely shown him kindness through the years and would never betray him.

The game is loose enough that you can interpret them as being asexual guy pals, but I view most Soren/other and Ike/other pairings as being not just OOC, but ignoring everything about the characters, often to force them to be some heterosexist norm. Thus, I react really badly to all the [insert Ike/other and Soren/other] pairings because it's just as offensive as trying to pair Heather up with guys. It ignores the fact that Ike is Soren's raison d'etre. Not money, not power or wealth, Ike. He's talented enough that he could easily move up and have his pick. By the end of Radiant Dawn, he could've easily taken a high spot in Gallia, Begnion, Daein or Crimea -- even the Serenes if he wanted. He chose Ike.

I know this makes me sound horribly wanky and opinionated, and usually I'd go YMMV on characterization things, but seriously, the game says so itself. Soren never shows interest in a single girl except Micaiah for about two seconds, and that's not romantic but "Hmm, another like me. /writes notes." then he promptly alludes to his loyalty to Ike. So yeah, asexual, romantic, whatever, but these two are downright co-dependent and I'm not sure they can survive without each other. Especially Soren without Ike, for that matter. But I'm sure Ike would probably like, insult a bunch of locals and have to fight them bare-handed or something without Ike there.

E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why | Ribs. he tried to love ribs the way Ike did, but alas, he still hates and only tolerates Ike's love for Ribs because it's more preferable than his love for certain green-haired princesses.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distorted-r.livejournal.com
Well, I totally agree with you on A, B, C, D. It's all spot on (surprise, surpise, your the kink meme's IkexSoren lolol)

Who is Ribs though? I know it must be short-hand, but I forget.

Oh also, he seems to tolarate Amie....in very different ways.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
Ribs isn't a character, just ribs. XD The game said that Ike loved to eat meat and ate a lot, and mentioned that Soren didn't like eating so much. Somewhere along the line it turned into a joke that Soren was jealous of Ike's love for food. Ribs were just how the joke took form, until it became Ike having an almost Ilyana obsession with food (especially ribs, as that's such a manly food) while Soren looks on in jealousy and wished that Ike showed such enthusiasm for him.

In Japan it's usually a porkchop shown.

Soren tolerates Aimee when she's useful XD He might be a little more tolerant of her because he knows Ike can't stand her advances and thinks she's crazy, but that doesn't mean he doesn't keep an eye on her.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distorted-r.livejournal.com
Ah, I do remember one joke in FE10 about how Ike grew so much eating Ribs. lol

But man, the "Soren hates everything" Oscar food discussion was epic too. Soren really does hate everything but Ike, even....food.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
you'd think with all the time he spent starving he'd gorge himself as much as possible. Maybe he's one who hates eating in front of people, hordes food and hates people touching his plate? Those are also signs of the aftereffects of having been close to starvation.

Date: 2010-08-23 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distorted-r.livejournal.com
;.; Damn, its hard to find more then one thing not depressing about his life. Really, the game did a good job of showing his mental damage, but there has to be a lot more underneath the surface that didn't get time to develop.

Date: 2010-08-25 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-amythest.livejournal.com
So yeah, asexual, romantic, whatever, but these two are downright co-dependent and I'm not sure they can survive without each other.

I'd like to see your argument for co-dependency on Ike's side. *puts on scholar glasses*

Date: 2010-08-25 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
in that case it was less emotional codependency and more "without Soren's guidance, he's totally going to get kidnapped by Aimee/get poisoned while traveling/get cheated/price gouged while traveling/step into one of those pitfall things and then get kidnapped by Aimmee" and all that jazz.

Ike is hardly helpless, but Soren has a discerning eye. Remember, Ike was willing to go with Aimee's plan before Soren ran in and stopped him in that base scene.

Date: 2010-08-25 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-amythest.livejournal.com
Oh, Soren definitely helps him out a ton. But on Ike's side I feel that it resembles a clownfish's "dependency" on an anemone. "Oh man, those stingers sure are useful for staying alive. Thanks, anemone." "Co-dependent" and Ike really don't mesh in my head. The emotional inequity is something I like about that pairing.

Date: 2010-08-23 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radish-lily.livejournal.com
Are you still taking meme prompts?

If so, Legault from FE7. 8D

Date: 2010-08-24 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
radishes~ radishes~ radishes~

A) My OTP Legault/Heath
B) The runner up ...there's ships other than Legault/Heath? Uh, Legault/stealing! Oh, and Aisha, the girl who got killed. It sounded like they slept together.
C) The anti-ship Legault/Isadora
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character ....I got nothing.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Aisha. He didn't realize what she meant to him until she was killed.

Date: 2010-08-23 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlelinor.livejournal.com
OHOHO
Heather
Ranulf
Raine
Rolf
/biased

Date: 2010-08-24 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
A) My OTP | Heather/every girl ever
B) The runner up Heather/awesome, Heather/stealing stuff, Heather/boobs
C) The anti-ship | Heather/Men :|
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
SHE'S A LESBIAN. Apparently some geniuses in the fandom manage to miss this. It could not be more obvious if her character design had a camisole with KISS ME, I'M A LESBIAN on it.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Soren. She had this epic plan to make her smile, if you know what I mean, and then IT TURNED OUT TO BE A TRAP.

A) My OTP | Ranulf/most of Gallia
B) The runner up Ranulf/most everyone else broing out
C) The anti-ship Ike/Ranulf. They're like, bros and stuff. Ranulf probably would've hit that, but he'd have to get through Soren and his Elfire first.
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
IDK, people have opinions on Ranulf other than that he's awesome?
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why
Ike. Great friends and all, and he has to admit that Ike is nice looking, but Soren was there. With an Elfire. And like, Ranulf is waaay too ADD so if a possibility is gone, he'd like, just go back and date all of Gallia.

A) My OTP | ...I had an OTP? Raine/Sheena is hot, I guess. I 'd ship them around, though.
B) The runner up | Raine/ruins
C) The anti-ship | Raine/Genis in any form that isn't platonic. Ewwww.
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
...I have nothing unpopular. I think fandom pretty much agrees that she's awesome, right? If not, then that's my unpopular one!
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Kratos. He was too busy angsting and she was too busy being wary of him. Also, her cooking almost killed him.

whoops, forgot Rolf

A) My OTP | IDK, Shinon/Ranulf?
B) The runner up Platonic! Mist&Rolf friendship
C) The anti-ship incest with his brothers :|
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character???
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Mist. Maybe they came close, but as they grew they drifted apart and he kept being devoted to Shinon and she fell in love with Boyd. Maybe they played house as kids and maybe they're still wistful at times, but mostly they don't think about it.
Edited Date: 2010-08-24 08:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-24 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlelinor.livejournal.com
RAnulf/Rolf? that's a new one *ponders*

Date: 2010-08-23 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckerbell.livejournal.com
NOT THAT I'M PREDICTABLE OR ANYTHING, BUT DO UMEDA.

AND THEN DO FUJI.

AND THEN WATARI AFTER THAT.

:D :D :D :D

Date: 2010-08-24 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
A) My OTP Akiha/Umeda
B) The runner up ...there are ships other than Akiha/Umeda? Ok, platonic bonding with Mizuki, platonic bonding with his family, etc
C) The anti-ship the dude. Ryuuzaki? It's 4AM, my b rain is shutting off so I can't remember.
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
He doesn't dislike Akiha as much as he says, he doesn't like whatshisface as much as he implies
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

The guy he was dating before Akiha crashed back into his life. The sex was great and all, but he doesn't do committed relationships. Or something.

A) My OTP Tezuka/Fuji~
B) The runner up Saeki/Fuji, platonic Fuji family bonding, maybe Tachibana/Fuji?
C) The anti-ship Mizuki/Fuji, incestous!Fujicest.
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
He isn't a rapist, his sadism is superficial at best. His isn't super!moe either. I think of his sadism as more like the person who laughs a lot at times when other people mess up (possibly inside, given Fuji's facades) and not the sort who...KIDNAPS PEOPLE AND RAPES THEM WITH CACTI. He's no worse than someone who watches Funniest Home videos and thinks it's hilarious to see kids hit their fathers in the balls with bats or general pratfalls.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Eiji. They were better friends than lovers.

A) My OTP |Tatsumi/Watari, I guess?
B) The runner up Watari/Tsuzuki could be fun. I don't think they'd last, they don't really have what they need, but the sex would be great and they'd eat lots of sweets.
C) The anti-ship IDK. WATARI X DEAD GIRL WHO HE THOUGHT WAS HOT. WATARI X YATONOGAMI?
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
I can't think of any ~amazing meta~ that came out about him. His character had started to get expanded when the manga got left off...I think even if he had a motive and such, he wouldn't turn out villainous, though.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Tsuzuki, for see above. Hisoka, because even if he's fond of him, he doesn't have what Hisoka needs either, and probably only thinks of him in a friendly manner.

Date: 2010-08-23 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ergoipsofacto.livejournal.com
Aaaaaaaah I don't think I've ever had my fic recced before, thanks so much. <3 ...Though while I was first skimming through this post, I caught the word "incestuous" and was thinking, "OH CRAP, IS THIS ABOUT THAT LINE ABOUT ALMEDHA'S BOOBS," because I am mature.

For the meme: Azula!

Date: 2010-08-24 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
:) I missed your fic! And incestuous is the general joking term I give to fandom because of the games and their content.


A) My OTP | Azula/Ty Lee
B) The runner up: Azula/the world as her bitch
C) The anti-ship | Ozai/Azula /shudder
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
She didn't just need a hug and she wasn't a complete monster, either. She had genuine moments of softness (though she'd flame your ass if you said it twice) and yet she was a sociopathic, manipulative wonder. It made her to be an amazing villain, though. Probably one of the most feminist villains around, considering most female villains are redeemed halfway ~by the hero's cock~ or were doing it for love. Yes, she did it for her father, but she did it for herself too, and she did it damn well.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Mai. Oh, she might toy with her

Date: 2010-08-23 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] traincat.livejournal.com
Sothe. 8D

Alternatively, Tony Stark.

Date: 2010-08-24 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measuringlife.livejournal.com
A) My OTP Sothe/eyeliner and black fingernail polish and corset tops. Also Sothe/Tormod
B) The runner up Sothe/stealing, Sothe/being a sullen teenager
C) The anti-ship ...you know which one.
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
...my characterization is basically = Hot Topic Teen. It's my fanon headcanon, and I'm laughing too hard at the mental images to ever stop.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Pelleas. Because, well yes.

A) My OTP Tony/everyone-but-Peter, because you know he hit that, Steve/Tony
B) The runner up Tony/~machines~ Tony/building things Tony/nice suits Tony/nice cars
C) The anti-ship Tony/Peter because...no. Seriously, in Civil War when he had Peter unmask himself, it was really weirdly pedolike. Because Peter was blushing and looked really young. My first response was to make a "creepy youth pastor type" joke
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
He's not all asshole. Ignore 616 if need be.
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why

Peter. Because Peter is like his son, and while that's ok in other fandoms for some reason, in here it feels weird and incestuous.

Date: 2010-08-24 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlelinor.livejournal.com
Aaaaah, Sothe. I love how he went from cute teen to EMOBOY.
That look, Sothe. Seriously.

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